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113 No. 113
I was wondering, since this section became also for zombies in general, if i may allowed to post my special... Zombie... Girl... Jace.

Her story, for short: she's a zombie hunter in a world where humans lost against the undead and had to hide in fortified cities and islands, Land of the Dead style. She's one of the people who is in charge of killing as many zombies as possible, together with other hunters. One day, she got bitten and bludgeoned to death by her best friend before she even had time to notice this, and for mysterious reasons, while still turning, her coscience stayed intact so she basically is a zombie, who is still somewhat human and DOESN'T KNOW SHE IS A ZOMBIE. She has a mental block, so she doesn't realize why people see her as strange and don't talk to her anymore.

It sounds so boring if i explain it like this...

I hope you like her...
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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face sketch 2
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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comic panel test, sorta
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Done for now, i guess
i'm still deciding details on her look, so i may change something to make her more zombie-like
>> No. 122
fucking mary sue. Do not want
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Oh god. This is...I'm sorry, a zombie that defies all logic of being a fucking zombie? Nonono, this is bad. Art is good, everything else is high levels of do not want. Take this test for your character, fix the fuck out of it, and re-write the bio accordingly. http://www.springhole.net/quizzes/marysue.htm
>> No. 125
It's very painfully obvious that you like Battle Angel Alita
>> No. 126
I actually kinda like the sentient zombie idea, though I'm not wild about this character. She seems to be a normal human (who happens to exhibit some suish traits) while getting all the cool zombie powers but still looking cute. If I were you I'd give her some zombie traits rather than just greenish grey skin, like showing the wounds that her friend gave her, having the hair be patchy and dull, making the body look more skeletal and/or rotting, because as-is my first thought is that she's a normal chick in body paint.
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>>113
>>my special
>>coscience
>>I hope you like her

...What
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>> No. 129
>>123
i took the test when i first created the character. The result was something around 10 or 15 at most. You all could have been a lot nicer, but thanks for the critique anyway.
>> No. 130
>>129
Oh, QQ more and quit whining about how mean we are. Nobody was even rude to you.

"She's a zombie but she doesn't know it and she acts just like a normal person only green!" isn't "boring," it's the express lane to teenage wish-fulfillment land. Does she have any other characteristics besides that? Does being a zombie have any effect on her at all besides turning her green? Not just physically, but mentally and emotionally. WHY is she the Special Magic Zombie who didn't get turned into a brain-eater? What's the deal with her? If you don't have actual thought-out responses to these questions then you did it wrong. If you do, you might still be doing it wrong, to be honest with you. "The One Special Magic *insert ANYTHING AT ALL here* Who Is Special And Magic And Different From All The Others" is a questionable premise anywhere outside of children's stories.
>> No. 132
>>131
Did you read the second paragraph of my post? Because in the second paragraph of my post I tried to provide helpful criticism. That was what I was doing right there. I'm sorry if I didn't phrase it nicely enough for you or something.

ATTENTION: THE REST OF THIS POST IS ANOTHER ATTEMPT AT GIVING HELPFUL AND CLARIFYING CRITIQUE, JUST FYI SINCE PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THESE THINGS

I don't have a problem with the idea of sentient zombies, but it's important to keep in mind that a zombie is not a Normal Person. If your "zombie" is just a Normal Person with green skin, then I'm going to call zombie bullshit on it. It's possible that your "zombie" ISN'T just a Normal Person with green skin, but if so, you didn't express any of that in your post.

I mean, the whole point of having a sentient zombie, I should think anyway, is to explore that line between A Person and Not A Person - if the zombie is just a Person in every way except lol technically dead, then you're not effectively using the character's undeadness as a trait at all and it looks and feels to the reader as if it were tacked on as an excuse to make your character Special Desu.
>> No. 133
>>131
>Why not give constructive criticism rather then "Your character is shit and here's why:"
Also, "your character is shit and here's why:" is a form of constructive criticism. The critic is not required to tell the creator how to fix things; the difference between "constructive" and "not constructive" isn't babying the author or making sure you provide tips on how to fix it, but just making sure you give REASONS.

THE FOLLOWING ARE GENERIC EXAMPLES NOT RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR PIECE, BEING USED AS GENERAL ILLUSTRATIONS OF PRINCIPLE

NOT CONSTRUCTIVE:
- this is shit
- i don't like this
- you dont know what anatomy is

CONSTRUCTIVE:
- This is good but there are some anatomy issues, specifically X and Y
- There are some anatomy issues, specifically X and Y, and this is how you fix them
- There are some anatomy issues, specifically X and Y

You see what I'm getting at here?
>> No. 135
I agree, she could use more zombie features and less cute ones. I'm fine with a special zombie and all as long as there are other features to mix things up too. She should be uglier, also maybe having some mental and/or physical issues. Being a zombie, aware of it or not, is definitely not the best for your health. How does she survive? Doesn't she have to feed on something, brains, flesh, whatever? How does she react to feeling the urge to devour raw meat? How do others react to her, if there are any others?

You should dare to do more things to your character. Go wild, be creative, try sillier stuff too! You might find a combination of things that spice the character up and give her flaws and problems too.
>> No. 138
...perhaps it's not my place, but I think some people WERE being a little rude. Just sayin'.
>> No. 139
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To add to what everybody else is saying, have you looked into other media that explores the idea of sentient zombies? One of my absolute favorites would be Day of the Dead, who was only vaguely able to remember being human. He ends up being the most endearing character in the film, and he'sonly barely human. You also can look to the zombies of the Return of the Living Dead series, who were fully sentient and capable of speech, but found being undead so painful that they required the endorphins from fresh brains in order to numb the pain of their existence.

Hell, you could probably count Frankenstein's monster as something of a zombie. Just looking into how other people have explored the idea of a sentient zombie, expanding your reference pool, seeing what other people do and expanding on that. Hell, even the zombie from HinaBN still comes off as something of a living ghost that has a detachment from humanity, just kind of cooly observing what the other characters do with passing interest. Your zombie girl is simply too human.

First thing I'd do? Make her look like a rotting corpse. Maybe have whatever story she's in, she starts to decay and maybe bloat more and more as time passes. One thing I liked about Marvel Zombies is that they had the zombie superheros griping over how being dead was affection their bodies, such as their blood pooling into their lower limbs due to gravity. Stuff like that.
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In Jace's defense....I don't think you have to be covered in boils or missing a jaw to be an effective zombie.... L4D's Witch hardly has any physical deformity and does not disappoint when it comes to being a monster even though she's one butterfly tramp stamp and a color pallet away from being a random anorexic 30 something trailer whore. While a non rotting zombie does make for a more boring zombie, I think it can be done and well.

Honestly, the biggest issue I have is she is a wooden, senseless character. I don't understand how someone like her can't seem to understand they have not "changed". She is a person that specializes in hunting undead and is suffering obvious visual symptoms...nothing about her makes believable sense.

IMO, the only way to play "I don't know what's going on yet I am perfectly sentient" shtick in an interesting manner is to have the character rot to disgusting pieces and be zombie-like while still BELIEVABLY staying in complete denial and ignorance to what is happening to her. The fact she has previous experience and expertise with zombies makes this task impossible unless she gets FULL BLOWN AMNESIA and that is cliche & contrived...

Rethink your character, keep those loose ends tied and I think the internet will stop taunting you.
>> No. 142
>>141
I feel that full on denial could be played out in an interesting manner, especially if she continues to decay and it becomes more and more physically obvious what she is. To me that goes hand in hand with exploring the human/not human line when dealing with sentient zombies. However I think it would have to be handled carefully so as to not make the character seem like she has the mental faculties of a concussed mouse.

Also, while I agree that she needn't be horribly rotting to be effective as a zombie (I'm honestly okay with just the green skin because of the cartoony style - the point isn't for her to be horrifying, it's to mark her as different) it does say specifically in the backstory that she was bludgeoned to death by her friend. And...uh...if that's the case she should really be displaying a lot more blunt trauma damage, since I assume she doesn't have the ability to heal anymore.

>>139
I think the most important part of developing this character more is determining how zombies work in your universe and what rules they follow. This will logically guide you towards what kind of problems your character might encounter due to decay or whatever, as well as what kind of mental changes she might have to struggle with. For example, if your zombies are brain eaters, does she have an odd urge to eat brains that makes no sense to her, since she still views herself as human? Obviously something like that is going to very distressing and make it difficult for her to maintain her cognitive dissonance.
>> No. 143
How did this 'character' end up getting more critique than most of the things in workshop (they actually want it)?
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>>113
>> No. 145
I should clarify - when I talk about "but with green skin" I'm not literally referring to the green skin being a bad thing in and of itself - I'm using it as a signifier of "superficially 'dead' but that's the whole depth of how zombielike she is; otherwise she's a completely normal person who just happens to be deceased." It was a very unclear phrasing on my part - it's probably still a very unclear phrasing, I just can't think of how to put it into words properly right now - and I apologize for it.
>> No. 146
>>141
I totally agree. She would be much more convincing if the trauma from the blow causes her to go into denile about her change despite the fact that somewhere in the back of her mind she knows the truth, even if she refuses to accept it.
>> No. 147
>>143
this, and OP probably isn't even around anymore
>> No. 148
to be fair I'd totally hit on a zombie babe like this.
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>>143
1 i don't hang out in workshop
2 i don't have the patience to read an entire story even if I already know it's good

if there are "critique my oc" threads elsewhere that aren't getting attention welp sorry
>> No. 156
You can find more about Jace right there, on Eva's tumblr, I think it's pretty interesting with this

http://evadtower.tumblr.com/post/1639979711/about-jace
>> No. 163
If you are heart-set on having a sentinent Zombie; might I suggest you read the online comic "Maggot Boy"
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