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679 No. 679
My first thread in this section, but there's a time for everything. No pretty pictures (except my opening one... when I found somewhere - enjoy it), I'm afraid, since I'm not much of an artist, but I've been mulling over how to do femme characters of TF2 for a while now. I mean, as an ex-animu fan... I'd have to say it's bout near required for me to consider this in just about every fandom I'm in.

So, I see that most people tend to make gender-bended characters either the same nationality\race\(general) personality as their predecessor. So it's basically the same character, only with... ahem, an "exquisite rack". Always nice to see other people's takes on gender-bends of the classicle classes, but not quite enough for me.

Others tend to just go with whatever nationality tickles their fancy. Like the Engineer being from India or the Heavy being from... Iunno, Chile or something. Awesome, but... A little out of my range. And I don't want to have to rely on stereotypes to the point where my characters won't even be unique anymore, because, trust me, if I go that route, that's what's bound to happen.

So what I basically decided to mix up their nationalities while tampering with their personality to suit my fancy.

I just realized that probably doesn't make sense to anyone who is residing outside of my brain, so let me off an example instead. First and foremost being my FemSoldier - the first one I thought up.

So, she's a Soldier, only she's Australian. And when I say "Australian", I mean AUSTRALIUM Australian. So, yeah, huge muscles, big, booming voice, love of combat and all things bloody, and, of course, the signature SAXTON HAAALE mustache. So, she'd basically have the same model as male Soldier - only with short blonde braids under her helmet, breasts, and a comically huge mustache.

Everyone assumes she's good friends with the original Soldier, but it's hard to tell since the two get into fist-fights as often as they're seen drinking together. But she's not quite as... nutty as him - they just share a lot of common interests, and, admittedly, a very similar outlook on life. "If it bugs me, blow it up."

She is also INCREDIBLY condescending towards the Original Sniper - she picks on him constantly for being a twig, resorting to throwing pee in jars at people, and shooting people forty feet away instead of getting in their face and fighting like a REAL Australian. Sniper just endures it with quiet mutters, but he knows he can't do anything - a mustache like hers is NOT one to be messed with.

Get what I'm sayin'? I hope so - I feel like I'm babbling like an idiot here. Next I'll describe my version of GirlScout.
>> No. 681
You mean I'm not the only one with an AussieFemSoldier?

Granted, she's got the backstory of being a failed Sniper with horrible Leeroy Jenkins tendencies...but still.

She dresses a bit different from the male Soldier, at least on the torso. Red singlet and a khaki military-ish vest. She's got the standard Soldier helmet, but instead of braids like your Soldier she's got a shoulder-length bob cut. One of her hats is a Rambo-like red headband. To be honest I went with a more Rambo-inspired design with this Soldier. Also, she drinks. She drinks like the Demoman. And her melee weapon is a bowie knife. She doesn't have a 'stache because her existence predates the Engineer Update and I didn't feel like redesigning her.

Also, she goes by the name "A". That's it. Just an A. It's got something to do with her dad being the most un-Australian, misogynistic, cowardly bastard ever, and ending up as her first target. She basically lived in the Outback for five years since running away from home at age 13. She has not mentally progressed past that age.
>> No. 683
Rambo + Soldier + Sniper = AWESOME. You, ma'am, win today.

I'm assuming you're a wimenz. Please take no offense.

I'm being a little derpy right now, so I don't really have anything else to say about your FemSoldier (I'm sorry!), but I do like the concept so far. I really do.

Um, anyways... Oh, yeah. GirlScout. I've decided that GirlScout is French. Yes, French. She grew up pretty well off, but she's got... well... mental (coughsanitycough) issues.

For one, she thinks that she's the descendent and reincarnation of Napoleon Bonaparte, the greatest French man to ever live (and if you say that he wasn't actually French, she WILL find you in the night and beat your head to a pulpy mess with a golfclub. That's not a threat, it's a promise.)

She's a huge tomboy ("Frail maidens can't conquer nations!"), so none of this skirt-wearing sillibsns. Overall, her model would be extremely similar to BoyScout, only she'd have black hair in two ponytails, freckles, dark circles under her eyes, and a black bag over her shoulder instead of brown. Also, it'd have a kitty on it. Because I can see her being a crazy cat lady when she grows up. Also, I like the idea of her having a golf club instead of a basball bat. Or maybe a cricket stick. But I don't know anything about cricket, so eh.

Also, she's got really crooked teeth, too. Like, three times worse than BoyScout. It's bad.

Last thing is that she has a HUGE obsession with Spy. She's convinced they were made for each other and keeps insisting that they're going to get married and have tons of kids together and that he will be her queen. Of sorts.

Spy, of course, does not approve. At all. GirlScout is not very attractive, and even if she was, she's under his age limit, and even if she wasn't, SHE'S KINDA BATSHIT INSANE. So, yeah. He goes through painful attempts to avoid her, but only about half of them work.

She also sees Demoman and Sniper as inferior territories of England (much to their chagrin), and since French and English people never really get along that much... She just decides she hates them. A lot. The feeling is mutual. She also doesn't like Soldier (male or female) because they're all very patriotic, but have different countries. The Soldiers get past this because of... well, everything else they have in common, but there's no such hope for GirlScout and the Soldiers.

She turns her nose up at BoyScout because she thinks of him as an inferior American swine and much too immature for her tastes, but he doesn't care because she's ugly and has small tits anyway, so who effing cares. The two avoid each other more than anything else. She also hates Heavy because she blames Russia for bringing Napoleon down. Heavy thinks she's far too hilarious to really be much of a threat and doesn't mind her, really. He has worse to deal with.

I think that's all the interesting interactions I have to share. Later, Pyro. Then Spy.
>> No. 685
One of my other major females is an Irish Demowoman. She could not look any more different from the male Demo. Let's see. She breaks even at 5 feet. I'm not exactly going for her being a little girl. I was going more for "bomb-chucking leprechaun" idea.

She *is* one of the youngest of my crew, having started her career at the tender age of fifteen as an IRA sympathizer. Five years and a few IEDs later, she's working for BLU. Her grenade launchers are built smaller and sleeker, custom-made for her hand. She's also a huge chemistry buff. She's made a set of smoke grenades and is attempting to reverse-engineer the recipe for BONK!. Tavish (Canon!Demo, RED) Does not like her at all. He doesn't consider her a *real* Demo due to not missing an eye and actually wearing protective headgear.

My other *other* major lady is an Engie. A six-foot-tall German woman with white hair and a penchant for cybernetics. She's got very poor social skills and doesn't like to be around people. She's got a sort of quiet mad scientist vibe to her. Her cybernetic arm predates the existence of the Gunslinger and instead of allowing her to build mini-Sentries, it comes with a taser function. She lost said arm due to an incident involving the Demo spoken of above.
>> No. 686
So, Fem!Pyro has the exact same outfit as the regular Pyro. The only difference is that she simply removes her mask after-hours. She's kind of Scout's counterpart since she came from Harlem, and, surprisingly, they get along really well.

REALLY well.

She's a little older than Scout, but only by a little. But she's really laid back and friendly and is pretty chill with everyone with few exceptions. She's used to being the person to GO to when you've got troubles, because she has tons of younger siblings, and she's just used to it. She's black, has really short hair ( a lot like this: http://thestreethearts.com/wp-content/media/2009/05/img_6935-large.jpg ), and is a little chubby. Just a little. Which is fine with Scout. He likes grabbing... things.

She's chill, but she doesn't take any bullshit. Do NOT try to talk to her before she's had her morning dose of coffee. Do NOT talk to her if she is hungry. Do NOT call her Thunder-thighs. And do NOT give Demoman a hard time, because, even though she's younger than him, she kind of takes it upon herself to be his big sis or whatever, and she'll probably chop off all your fingers if she finds out he's started hitting the Scrumpy bottle hard BECAUSE OF SOMETHING YOU SAID.

Also, don't mention the Civil Rights Movement.

Just don't.

There are certain people who press her buttons just because they can, and, obviously, she does not like them very much. The first being Male Spy. Because it's... just kind of what he does. He's a real dick, is all. Second being GirlScout. Who gets on literally EVERYONE'S nerves. Third being male Sniper, who just happened to show an awe-inspiring lack of tact one day and said something she's still having trouble forgiving him for. Fourth being Fem!Engineer, who outright said she just doesn't trust people of color. (Needless to say, a lot of her sentries gets sapped, and Fem!Pyro couldn't give a single fuck.)

More tomorrow. Or tonight. Depends on how long my Meet the Medic high lasts.
>> No. 687
So, if Fem!Pyro is obviously a girl, the laws of balance or equal exchange or what-have-you states that another class has to be an enigma, right? What better class than Spy?

So I just noticed that /tits/ doesn't have an embedded tag... thing. Which is fine, because where there's a link, there's a way. Most of my fem classes will have outfits that are very similar to their male counterparts - they even still wear pants. Fem?Spy is an exception. Its outfit is directly inspired by this little clip right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uAHqRaZ1B0

So it would be dressed in all back, have a totally face-obscuring mask, huge sunglasses (that wouldn't be removed, kind of like if you remove Engie's goggles, on GMod, there's just an empty space where his eyes should be), a baggy coat that might even resemble Soldier's, only black, and a voice-distorter.

With the voice distorter always on, no one can quite tell if Fem?Spy is a man or a woman, and his (her?) clothing is loose enough so that it doesn't give anything away, either. You'd also be hard pressed to know what race Fem?Spy is or what country of origin they come from since its suit is careful not to show one square inch of skin. It has no real accent to speak of (meaning it's probably from the Midwestern US), but male!Spy has shown discomfort since he sometimes speaks to himself in French, and fem?Spy has seemed to understand him perfectly just fine. Or maybe he's just being paranoid.

HE'LL NEVER KNOW.

Heavy and Medic have had similar things happen to them, but they seem to take it in much better stride, or just brush it off.

Fem?Spy is very different from its male counterpart, though. It acts INCREDIBLY goofy and seems to take everything as a joke. Well, almost anything. Sometimes it seems to be legitimately angry at things, but since sarcasm doesn't translate well on voice-distorters, you never quite know if it's joking or not until it starts laughing. And even then, it could be still legitimately angry, so you end up laughing along awkwardly, hoping you don't get your throat slit in the middle of the night.

This makes male!Spy very, very nervous. It's impossible to know what's a ruse and what's NOT with that... thing. He wants to assume by its playful behavior that it's a younger spy who thinks everything is just a really cool game, but maybe it's an old veteran Spy that knows how to mislead its enemies? Eveything about Fem?Spy creeps him out and drives him nuts because HE CAN'T DETERMINE ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AND THAT'S HIS JOB, SO HE'S FAILING AT HIS JOB.

Also, male?Pyro doesn't get along with it, either, but he(?) just doesn't like Spies in general. He also feels like fem?Spy is watching him and trying to determine what and who his is, too, and that makes him feel uncomfortable. He knew what to do to make sure male!Spy stopped trying to get tabs on him, but with someone like fem!Spy, how on earth is he supposed to know what makes his doppleganger tick?

Oddly enough, female!Pyro, male!Demoman, male!Heavy, and male!Medic seem to get along with fam?Spy the most. Mostly because, though they don't know a lot about their mysterious partner, they don't feel a pressing need to, and don't really think of it as a threat.

Uh, Medic next, me thinks. Then Engie, then Sniper.
>> No. 710
Even before the Shogun update, I had an idea for a female Medic who's Japanese, of the fucking-terrifying-Asian-old-lady type who can politeness judo you into obeying her iron will. That, or ex-sumo wrestler femme-Hoovy (hey, there's already the hat for that).

When she isn't Southie, Fem!Scoot is British in my head thanks to a pretty nifty character design I saw in dA once upon a time. And she wears the Braces of Orthodontic Overkill (headgear and all) as a default hat.

And I can't resist the inherent lolz of Lady!Sniper being from New Zealand. If Snipers didn't already hate each other before, they sure do now.
>> No. 715
I also have a female BLU Heavy.

Her name is Ludmila.

She grew up on a farm outside Stalingrad. Her dad owed a wing of the Russian Mafia some protection money. When he couldn't deliver, they killed her parents. She went on a manhunt.

She's actually a really sweet girl to the rest of her team, and she's married to the Medic of the same team.

He's a fat admirer.
>> No. 734
I love all these ideas for Fem!classes, especially the Aussie Soldiers.

My Fem!Pyro is an Indian woman who was married off when she was very young and had her first child at the age of 13. The marriage was very abusive and the one time she did fight back resulted in her receiving massive burns on her face, hands and arms. She effectively snapped after that, murdering her husband, burning the house down, and disguising herself as a mute man.

She and her children would eventually join a nomadic performance group, where she would learn fire breathing and dancing. That's all I got on her for now, but she's pretty much an angry, bitter woman who wants the best for her children. She generally stays quiet and keeps to herself, though she may be willing to show off her old fire tricks once she warms up to her teammates.
>> No. 749
Hello, everyone! I'm really glad that everyone's been coming in and sharing their own opinions on what fem versions of the classes would be. I actually kind of was aiming for this to be my own little thread where I just kinda talk about my own character ideas and listen to what other people have to say about them, but if it gets to be a free-for all, I'm okay with that, too! But I really would appreciate it if I could hear more on my Fem!Classes. Have you seen them or something like them before? If so, where? How often?

You don't have to pay attention to my characters if you really don't want to, but it'd be greatly appreciated.

Anyways. Now for respondin.

>>710
Oh, hi! I've seen you before! I like the idea of an old Japanese woman that can still kick your ass Medic. British Girl!Scout is really cute to me because I think of Little Orphan Annie... even though I'm pretty sure that had little if nothing to do with England. Maybe I'm getting it mixed up with Oliver Twist in my head.

>>715
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMcLn6YjsBg&feature=related
I'll just leave that there.... Yup.

>>734
I like this idea for a Fem!Pyro so much, I might borrow it. I'll give you credit, of course - don't worry!
>> No. 751
So I was gonna do Medic or some crap, but... I really don't feel like it. So here be Lady!Sniper.

Lady!Sniper is the counterpart of Engineer, meaning she is from Texas. Only she is of Native American decent - I'd like to say Apache tribe, but that seems a little stereotypical, and Texas, being a large state, DID have quite a variety of tribes to chose from, so it's debatable.

But, yes. Fem!Snipes is Native American, doesn't speak much, and is extremely proud of her heritage. That being said, she hates Engineer with a flaming passion since she sees "his kind" as being the scum that took over the land that rightfully belonged to her people. She also dislikes all of the other American and Europeans for the most part. Exceptions being the more ethnic ones like Fem!Pyro and Male!Demo. While she is not actively NICE to these guys, she does tend to be less cold and bitter towards them.

She doesn't hate all white people, though. Just American and European ones. She really has no qualms with Heavy or even Fem!Soldier (even if she finds them kind of annoying since they're so load a lot of the time).

She is, however, completely infatuated with male!Sniper, who she sees as a kindred spirit. They're both kind of reclusive, like doing things the "old fashioned" way, and have a huge aversion to wasting anything that the planet gives them, just to name a few.

She's really attractive, and quite young (well, at least compared to Sniper. She's in her late 20s at the most), so Sniper is pretty... flattered by the attention.

So, yeah. They also get along very well. In private. At least twice a week.

Male!Sniper thinks that she's actually pretty crazy - crazy for thinking that he's anything special, at least. But he enjoys having a girl who will listen to his stories of all his crazy antics without getting green in the face and could watch him refill his jars without batting an eye. He thinks he lucked out on a pretty sweet deal.

Fem!Sniper differs from her male counterpart in that she doesn't see it as "luck", she sees it as "destiny", and she tends to get CRAZY possessive of Sniper sometimes if she thinks something (or someone) is coming between her and her DESTINY.

Male!Sniper, for one, thinks it's just a fun romp, and is a kinky bastard, to boot. So he, personally wouldn't mind if someone else made a move on his woman - as long as he could be there to watch or join in.

Fem!Sniper's opinion on guns is "Do whatever's necessary to get the job done." She doesn't particularly like them, but it's strangely satisfying to blow out the brains of that American scum with one of their own infernal weapons. However, if it came to preference, she would use a slightly modified version of her Huntsman. As for melee, she uses a tomahawk.

Engineer, one of the biggest targets for her silent rage-fits just doesn't even know how to respond to her. He was raised a southern gentleman, so it's not in his nature to get up in arms with a lady. But he's not exactly happy about having the blame lopped on him for something his forefathers did way down the line and he had no part of. So he generally just tries to ignore her.

Soldier doesn't know what to think of her. She's the most American American out there, and yet, she hates everything about what makes America America! He tries to avoid her, too, if only to save himself many needless headaches.

Spy, being the dick he is, likes to intentionally press her buttons, but it's mostly to conceal the outrage that SNIPER, of all people, could get an attractive woman like that while HE has to deal with Girl!Scout stalking him everywhere.

Boy!Scout knows better than to talk with that psycho-chick, but that doesn't stop him from ogling her from afar. Fem!Pyro doesn't mind TOO much - as long as he's not blatant with it.

Male?Pyro and her get along pretty well. They both speak the least, and Fem!Sniper likes to have mutual silence every now and again. (You'd be surprised how much male!Sniper can talk about himself once he trusts you enough to stop grunting unintelligibly at you like an animal.)

So that's that, then. See you guys later!
>> No. 752
Fem Medic is just as nuts as the original. She likes to stuff things; anything and everything is stuff-able to her. She goes out and finds baby birds that fell out of trees too early and stuffs them in jars to see if she can replace the wings with something that should not grow on a bird. If if dies it makes a paperweight. Needless to say she has many paper weights to choose from. She doesn't really care about healing team mates in battle because they're going to just get shot in the face again in two secinds anyway. She would rather move around the battlefield snatching up gibs before respawn can detect them and whisk them away. Medic and FMedic bro out on the weekends. They sit down at the table and discuss how long they can burn a scout alive before the tongue becomes unusable for experiments.
Fem Medic is an absolute manners freak. She was not raised in a barn and how dare you behave so rudely? She doesn't listen to music often and complains when Medic warms up on his violin.

FemSpy has a horribly pock marked body. She was raised as a spoiled brat in an old money family and will throw a fit and stop her pointy little shoes in the respawn when she discovers that she has been dominated. The next thing she does is target that person for the rest of the time , taunting them. How could some common trash like you hope to keep me down? she also laughs at the other fem classes' shoes whenever she has the chance. FemSpy is the most petty vindictive bitch possible.

FemScoot gets tired of everything very easily. She can't fall in love with something for more than a day. Her teeth are perfectly straight , but full of hole from here to hell and back. She sees a lot of FMedic. FMedic hates FScoot because as soon as she turns her back to her FScoot has gotten into the scalpel collection and is using them and her freshly stuff Blu Sniper for target practice. FScoot does whatever FMedic says not because she like her, but she is too afraid of having a guy doctor poke at her.

FSniper is an animal activist. PETA stlye fur ruining, did-you-just-eat-a-ham-sandwich-i-will-murder-you type activist. She is an american but she despises America for all the fur and Animal Mruder an blah blah blah. She and Solider are always at ends. whenever he says something about the great beautiful america she has to snipe (no pun intended) at him with biting sarcasm. She dresses like your average hippie, Sandals and all. when not being pyschotic she raises dingos and lets tigers out of the cages at the zoo and murders pet shop owners with golf clubs for imprisoning animals. Oh wait, that's still psychotic.
>> No. 754
>>749
Go right ahead! I wasn't sure if I was going to use her for anything or not, so it's awesome to see that someone else likes the idea enough to maybe pick it up.
>> No. 769
I have been thinking about making a Canadian Fem!Sniper for a while now, I can see her wearing deer antlers for a hat, so a little part of me thinks if I were to actually try to put her together that she would be a bit goofy.
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