I feel that, if TF2chan were to have more traffic, the Workshop wouldn't be the ghost town it is now. In fairness, many boards are relatively inactive. I'm not strongly opposing this motion overall; I think it's a good idea. I guess I just don't really like the thought of losing a personal thread, haha. On the other hand, if a bunch of artists posting in the same thread make similar errors/need similar advice, well, a single "workshop/bootcamp" thread would be an excellent way to sort of streamline advice for multiple artists.
However, I was wondering if there was some sort of date on when the workshop board will be completely done away with (?) and whether I should try to back up my thread so I don't lose the (little) advice I received on it.
Will all current threads in the workshop be backed up in the archives or not?

Be specific when you give crit. I've actually heard professional art teachers tell their students they're not drawing, say, their anatomy spot-on, but never identify what specifically isn't working, and thus the student never learns.

Unfortunately even with a trained eye or a knack for detail, not everyone always sees what's wrong. If you always automatically knew what was wrong, you wouldn't be asking anyone for help.

>>3267
If you're using a tablet, I find that MyPaint is a pretty good open-source painting program, and there are plenty of brushes to work with. Paint Tool SAI works quite well too, though you need to purchase it.

Wow. Thanks for posting this. So much. Imma bookmark it because I think this provided me with a little impetus to work harder. But yeah, thank you again :'D

Lol this thread made by me is actually receiveng messages, this is sooo nice!

Writers, betas, don't be shy! Show all your love to the dictatorship of grammar and writing!

Keep going!

I'm going to pretend that this is also the appropriate thread to ask if there are any accomplished Frenchfags who can help me translate a handful of phrases from English into very affected French, for the sake of fanfiction. To the best of my knowledge, there are no online translators or phrase databases which carry the language "French, as spoken by a man who probably thinks he's on Neptune."

My email is there if you'd be so kind.

I beta! I don't know who to email in this thread because it's old.

However I proofread mainly for grammar and formatting. Feel free to send me an email any time.

Hey there,

Please don't say you don't know how to draw. You just have to work at it is all, perspectives are really tricky and I think you have potential for greatness.

The guidelines for perspective and Pyro were a good idea and a great start. Though I think before you start with drawing any particular details you should get the base to be what you're looking for first. Otherwise there's just gonna be a lot of frustrated erasing later.

First should be fixing those guidelines. That will make the figure fall right into place. I'll demonstrate what I mean by adding some of the guidelines in red to the picture.

I feel bad about drawing over your piece, but it's difficult telling you what I mean with words haha. Please forgive my utter lack of photoshop skills. I hope you get the general idea though. In case you don't I'll just go into excruciating detail and give you some tips of the trade.

A good tip for perspective when you're doing an ant's eye perspective is having a 'build from the bottom' mentality. You want the most weight to go into that left foot. Make that heel really defined. I think a quick google search of the structure and where someone puts weight on their feet would be a good idea. Just so you can portray a realistic feeling with Pyro. It's the largest part of the image and what I look at first so you want to make that what draws the viewer into the rest of the picture.

Next I would suggest having some of the calf show past the foot to give the foot more direction.

It looks like you're drawing a somewhat slimmer Pyro, which is completely fine, but I think weight placement in this pose is still crucial. Take a look at a glass cup for a moment. Tilt it so you are looking at it from the same angle as you would ideally see this image. See how the lip of the cup closest to you is facing up? Make sure Pyro's belt is curved more upwards like that. The way you have it right now is like you drew it face on with a foot kicking out.

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>>3387
Thank you so, so much, that was all REALLY helpful. And it did make sense, no worries!
I think I'm gonna start the drawing over on a new page, so I don't have to deal with erasing everything. But I'll post again once I get some lineart down!

>>3388

That sounds great. I'm looking forward to seeing your updated version and I am glad that I was of some help to you! Best of luck!

This would probably make more sense as a thread in /Discussion/ or /Fanart/..... that said, it would also behoove you to provide some actual details here rather than just telling people, "draw for me and I might give you some in-game keys".

I'm sorry, but this looks to be as bad as the shit I see on Furaffinity.

1. Someone hosts a "contest" with an incredibly meager prize such as a single free commission, in your case a $5 value.
2. Said someone recieves free art by the fuckton.
3. Profit, no question marks necessary.

I'm locking this rather than deleting it though, because if anyone wants to waste their time, be my guest. As for the OP, when you host a contest where people will be giving you what is essentially free commissions, consider the price of a commission beforehand so you don't come off looking like a scammer mooching for free art.

Scrunchy Sniper and Demoman, who looks weird without his facial hair. Sniper's pose in this one is supposed to be intentionally awkward, but I'm still worried about whether or not everything lines up right.

>>3369
I've put a coloured version of this one in /afanart/, but I am always grateful for your feedback, Dot.

Demoman's feet look too small for him. That's the only thing that jumps out at me right now.

Aaaa I hate furniture. Also, why does Heavy's head always seem too big or too small?

>>3374

I ended up blowing his legs up a bit even before seeing this, but you were definitely right.

I have absolutely no updates on any existing pictures, as much as I actually want to get them finished. Bah, pure laziness is what it is.
...but for now, I try my hand at drawing Sniper, who's a pretty awesome if underappreciated character in my opinion. I dunno, that fact that he's a very effective straightman to just about every other character almost consistently (at least,the way I understand his characterization leads me to beleive) makes me wonder why he's so ignored overall. Unless he's taking it up the ass from someone else, being a terrible guy or the father figure dude to scout, idk. Anyone got thoughts on this? I might have just been exposed to all the wrong fics/arts.

>>2961 Thank you so much for the coloring and shading tips, man! I've been definitely trying to avoid making the characters look jaundiced and/or too orange, so I'll add "too pink makes them look ill" that to the list. I'll find a healthy pallette for these guys someday! The lighting shading advice is also appreciated, and it was no problem at all that you decided to color over my pictures to illustrate it; I consider myself a more visual learner anyway.

Hello again. Switching computers yet again to present... a redrawing.

Ah, yeah, this is the picture in question that I'm redrawing. I'd like to note that I'm neither the original artist nor do I remember off of the top of my head who they are. I'm just redrawing it as a personal challenge to myself.